[Arm-netbook] Well, /this/ looks relevant...

[Christopher Havel]

This just turned up on Hackaday. Looks like the folks over at SiFive have
been very, very busy...

https://hackaday.com/2017/10/04/sifive-announces-risc-v-soc/

Might want to grab a bag of popcorn, guys, I think this is one to watch.
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Post by Christopher Havel
This just turned up on Hackaday. Looks like the folks over at SiFive have
been very, very busy...
https://hackaday.com/2017/10/04/sifive-announces-risc-v-soc/
Might want to grab a bag of popcorn, guys, I think this is one to watch.

You may want to read the first two comments on that page... before you
decide this is worth it. at least that's my thought anyways.

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Hackaday commenters are usually a bit curmudgeonly. I wouldn't pay the
peanut gallery there too much attention.
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Post by Christopher Havel
Hackaday commenters are usually a bit curmudgeonly. I wouldn't pay the
peanut gallery there too much attention.

Dunno, we'll see I suppose, if it is completely free software then it is
worth it, but if not, if there is some dumb licensing, then avoid it.
that's about all I can say...

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Post by Christopher Havel
Hackaday commenters are usually a bit curmudgeonly. I wouldn't pay the
peanut gallery there too much attention.

Dunno, we'll see I suppose, if it is completely free software then it is
worth it, but if not, if there is some dumb licensing, then avoid it.
that's about all I can say...

there's no reason - at all - why they would put or require any
proprietary firmware on it. there's no VPU, no GPU, nothing special
at all. the nice thing is it looks like it'll be actual first silicon
64-bit so people can at last start doing native compiles. that's
particularly important for debian: cross-compiled or qemu-compiled
packages are *not* accepted (arch they don't mind).

for an EOMA68 module the need for an FPGA is... disappointing. i
suspect this chip will be somewhere around the 650 to 700 pins mark if
they have only 2 32-bit lanes but if they've done 4 32-bit lanes it'll
be a bit of a monster, close to 900 or a thousand pins (each 32-bit
DDR3/DDR4 lane requires about 150 pins including power).

we just have to see.

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Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
there's no reason - at all - why they would put or require any
proprietary firmware on it. there's no VPU, no GPU, nothing special
at all. the nice thing is it looks like it'll be actual first silicon
64-bit so people can at last start doing native compiles. that's
particularly important for debian: cross-compiled or qemu-compiled

Well, if you are certain then... I guess it is important.

Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
packages are *not* accepted (arch they don't mind).

I am curious why arch is different then debian...



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Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
packages are *not* accepted (arch they don't mind).

I am curious why arch is different then debian...

If my understanding is correct from what I've seen, Arch don't even have an
automated build system. Package maintainers are trusted to build and upload
packages themselves. Arch even do weird stuff like build their 32-bit x86
multilib packages with their 64-bit toolchain.

Luke

[Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton]

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Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
there's no reason - at all - why they would put or require any
proprietary firmware on it. there's no VPU, no GPU, nothing special
at all. the nice thing is it looks like it'll be actual first silicon
64-bit so people can at last start doing native compiles. that's
particularly important for debian: cross-compiled or qemu-compiled

Well, if you are certain then... I guess it is important.

Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
packages are *not* accepted (arch they don't mind).

I am curious why arch is different then debian...

smaller team, less well-established, rolling releases. debian's
strict rules, established and tested over 20+ years now, means it can
be trusted for critical infrastructure.

l.

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