[Arm-netbook] FSFE discussion list message

[Paul Boddie]

Hello again,

I've also posted a message to the FSFE discussion list about the campaign:

http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-July/011110.html

There have been some discussions on that list about open hardware and the
threats posed by proprietary hardware and the surveillance features of various
CPU families, notably these threads:

http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-April/010912.html

(Featuring an attempt to fund a POWER8-based workstation.)

http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-June/011100.html

(Hopes for "truly free processor architectures", which might not be such a
fantasy after all, given improvements in Free Software for programmable logic
and synthesis.)

I rather hope for a solid discussion of the merits of the campaign, as opposed
to people just claiming that it can't be done, won't work, or whatever.

Paul

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[Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton]

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Post by Paul Boddie
Hello again,
http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-July/011110.html

ah! thank you!

Post by Paul Boddie
There have been some discussions on that list about open hardware and the
threats posed by proprietary hardware and the surveillance features of various
http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-April/010912.html
(Featuring an attempt to fund a POWER8-based workstation.)

thought that said EOMA68-based for a minute.... did a bit of a
double-take there :)

l.

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[Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton]

hiya paul if it's ok with you i'd like to write something up, would
you be happy to forward it on my behalf? i need to link some things
together, also i met some of the FSFE people at FOSDEM2016 and would
like them to know "this is what i showed you, it's really happening!"
because so many people there were really excited about the prospect of
a truly libre laptop.

more later?

l.

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[Paul Boddie]

Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
hiya paul if it's ok with you i'd like to write something up, would
you be happy to forward it on my behalf? i need to link some things
together, also i met some of the FSFE people at FOSDEM2016 and would
like them to know "this is what i showed you, it's really happening!"
because so many people there were really excited about the prospect of
a truly libre laptop.
more later?

You can probably post to that list or even subscribe to it without having any
FSFE affiliation, but I guess you don't really want to spend too much time
repeating yourself everywhere. Nevertheless, I could forward something if it
turned out that you couldn't post anything. (There was an initiative to allow
guest contributions to various FSFE resources, but things are being rearranged
and this might not be the case any more.)

In fact, my intention is to write a blog article about EOMA68 (and also other
things that have been happening in similar projects), but I decided to write
that message first because the FSFE blog site was down at the time. The topic
is also pertinent to previous discussions as well, so we will see if anyone
feels it worth discussing or not.

But by all means send stuff my way, get in touch privately, or whatever. :-)

Paul

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Post by Paul Boddie
But by all means send stuff my way, get in touch privately, or whatever. :-)

awesome ok draft is here, if you feel its appropriate do either link
to it or post the contents, whatever you feel is best.
http://rhombus-tech.net/crowdsupply/fsfe/

thx!

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Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
awesome ok draft is here, if you feel its appropriate do either link
to it or post the contents, whatever you feel is best.
http://rhombus-tech.net/crowdsupply/fsfe/

It looks good! :-) I'll certainly reference that in my blog article and any
follow-up to the discussion list. Don't forget to link to the thread I started
on the Rhombus Tech crowdsupply wiki page! And that might be a good place to
link to the above page, too.

Paul

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thanks good reminder
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Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
awesome ok draft is here, if you feel its appropriate do either link
to it or post the contents, whatever you feel is best.
http://rhombus-tech.net/crowdsupply/fsfe/

It looks good! :-) I'll certainly reference that in my blog article and any
follow-up to the discussion list. Don't forget to link to the thread I started
on the Rhombus Tech crowdsupply wiki page! And that might be a good place to
link to the above page, too.
Paul
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[Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo]

Hi,

Post by Paul Boddie
Hello again,
http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-July/011110.html
There have been some discussions on that list about open hardware and the
threats posed by proprietary hardware and the surveillance features of various
http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-April/010912.html
(Featuring an attempt to fund a POWER8-based workstation.)
http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-June/011100.html
(Hopes for "truly free processor architectures", which might not be such a
fantasy after all, given improvements in Free Software for programmable logic
and synthesis.)

I just posted about this in another thread of this mailing list,
specifically about RISC-V. Hopefully somebody will make some in silicon
rather than FPGA, either lowrisc, SiFive, or somebody else.


Also I forgot to mention the SH4 architecture with patents expired or
expiring, and the intention to create the "J" cores, we'll see how it
goes.

Post by Paul Boddie
I rather hope for a solid discussion of the merits of the campaign, as opposed
to people just claiming that it can't be done, won't work, or whatever.

I really believe that it CAN be done and that it WILL work, sooner or
later ;)

[Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton]

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On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo

Post by Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
I just posted about this in another thread of this mailing list,
specifically about RISC-V.

... where?

Post by Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
Hopefully somebody will make some in silicon
rather than FPGA, either lowrisc, SiFive, or somebody else.
Also I forgot to mention the SH4 architecture with patents expired or
expiring, and the intention to create the "J" cores, we'll see how it
goes.

Post by Paul Boddie
I rather hope for a solid discussion of the merits of the campaign, as opposed
to people just claiming that it can't be done, won't work, or whatever.

I really believe that it CAN be done and that it WILL work, sooner or
later ;)

it will... once people realise that the key bit that's hard is not
the processor core, it's the management and sourcing of the hard
macros *surrounding* the processor core.

l.

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[Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton]

Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton

Post by Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
I just posted about this in another thread of this mailing list,
specifically about RISC-V.

... where?

okok got it, i'm awake now :)

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