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[Arm-netbook] Ethernet with pass-through card
Stephen Paul Weber
2016-07-26 12:24:56 UTC
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Does the EOMA spec have ethernet? I forget. Neither housing lists USB ethernet as a thing it has, which seems odd if not (especially for the desktop housing)‎. Having an ethernet port in the bargain would make the pass-through card pretty exciting.

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Matt Campbell
2016-07-26 13:05:08 UTC
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Post by Stephen Paul Weber
Does the EOMA spec have ethernet? I forget. Neither housing lists USB ethernet as a thing it has, which seems odd if not (especially for the desktop housing)‎. Having an ethernet port in the bargain would make the pass-through card pretty exciting.
No, EOMA68 doesn't have Ethernet. But it does have USB, all the way up
to USB 3.1.

Matt

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pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2016-07-26 14:08:42 UTC
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Post by Matt Campbell
Post by Stephen Paul Weber
Does the EOMA spec have ethernet? I forget. Neither housing lists USB
ethernet as a thing it has, which seems odd if not (especially for the
desktop housing)‎. Having an ethernet port in the bargain would make
the pass-through card pretty exciting.
No, EOMA68 doesn't have Ethernet. But it does have USB, all the way up
to USB 3.1.
Matt
I think you need to buy an additional Ethernet-to-USB adapter.

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Florian Pelz
Stephen Paul Weber
2016-07-26 15:03:34 UTC
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Post by pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
I think you need to buy an additional Ethernet-to-USB adapter.
Would be nice if such an adapter were part of a housing, but I realise
there's limited resources for the housings already on offer. Thoughts for
the future, I suppose :)
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Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2016-07-26 16:06:04 UTC
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On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Stephen Paul Weber
Post by Stephen Paul Weber
Post by pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
I think you need to buy an additional Ethernet-to-USB adapter.
Would be nice if such an adapter were part of a housing, but I realise
there's limited resources for the housings already on offer. Thoughts for
the future, I suppose :)
yeahyeah. LAN9512 on-board, so you don't lose the number of USB
ports. the BOM in volume of the micro-desktop is going to be around
$6-7. a variant with a USB-ETH on-board would be around $2 more and
the casework would have to be slightly larger... big redesign,
different product basically.

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Philip Hands
2016-07-27 07:00:56 UTC
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Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Stephen Paul Weber
Post by Stephen Paul Weber
Post by pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
I think you need to buy an additional Ethernet-to-USB adapter.
Would be nice if such an adapter were part of a housing, but I realise
there's limited resources for the housings already on offer. Thoughts for
the future, I suppose :)
yeahyeah. LAN9512 on-board, so you don't lose the number of USB
ports. the BOM in volume of the micro-desktop is going to be around
$6-7. a variant with a USB-ETH on-board would be around $2 more and
the casework would have to be slightly larger... big redesign,
different product basically.
That's going to be hard-wired to a USB hub, I presume?

Would it not be better to provide one or two internal USB sockets, into
which one could put an Ethernet USB-stick if that's what one wanted, but
would also allow one to alternatively add a wifi stick, or bluetooth, or
say a chaos-key: http://altusmetrum.org/ChaosKey/

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2016-07-27 12:39:49 UTC
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Post by Philip Hands
Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Stephen Paul Weber
Post by Stephen Paul Weber
Post by pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
I think you need to buy an additional Ethernet-to-USB adapter.
Would be nice if such an adapter were part of a housing, but I realise
there's limited resources for the housings already on offer. Thoughts for
the future, I suppose :)
yeahyeah. LAN9512 on-board, so you don't lose the number of USB
ports. the BOM in volume of the micro-desktop is going to be around
$6-7. a variant with a USB-ETH on-board would be around $2 more and
the casework would have to be slightly larger... big redesign,
different product basically.
That's going to be hard-wired to a USB hub, I presume?
the LAN9512 is an odd IC which is itself a 2-port USB hub plus an
ETH-PHY all in one package. so it could be used *as* the USB hub,
taking up one of the 2 EOMA68 ports but then providing 2 more, so
you'd get 3 external USB ports on a micro-desktop-upgraded PCB.
Post by Philip Hands
Would it not be better to provide one or two internal USB sockets, into
which one could put an Ethernet USB-stick if that's what one wanted, but
would also allow one to alternatively add a wifi stick, or bluetooth, or
say a chaos-key: http://altusmetrum.org/ChaosKey/
ah good point - just like in the laptop housing.

yyeah let me think about that - space-wise it would be quite a bit
larger than the micro-desktop. more of a macro-desktop...

l.

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Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2016-07-26 16:07:39 UTC
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On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:24 PM, Stephen Paul Weber
Post by Stephen Paul Weber
Does the EOMA spec have ethernet?
i had to take it off the standard, it's explained in the questions
and in more detail in the ecocomputing whitepaper
http://rhombus-tech.net/whitepapers/ecocomputing_07sep2015/

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