[Arm-netbook] Logos

[John Luke Gibson]

I was wondering what people think of the Cloister Black letter E for
the EOMA logo. I can imagine that some people might find it hard to
read or understand. Legible enough any one would suppose?

Loading Image...

In case anyone is worried about copyright claim, apparently the
original authors found the font on gimp, which is absurd because it's
not an in-built font so it must have been a system font that they just
casually assumed was free since they found it in gimp >.>

Regardless, I found the font as a free [as in beer] font on a font
sale website with the name matching and each letter meticulously
matching. Through there I found the author's website which is in
German and has many other font downloads of various styles. Through
google-translate I discovered that german text on the page said free
for "private" use, whatever that means (maybe if someone knows
German?) and they reiterated "you may use" multiple times in the
comments. Unfortunately, they seem to have a lot of fonts on the
website which they've been updating occasionally "Cloister Black"
included. In fact the name no longer shows "Cloister Black" on their
website and instead shows "Old English", but through the wayback
machine I found an archived version that shows "Cloister Black". I'll
post the link here when I get a chance, I saved it on my other
computer.

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[Peter Carlson]

For me it really only works in the list. As stand alone I think it would be
a WTF moment.

Post by John Luke Gibson
I was wondering what people think of the Cloister Black letter E for
the EOMA logo. I can imagine that some people might find it hard to
read or understand. Legible enough any one would suppose?
http://www.deathnotenews.com/uploads/1/7/3/9/17393465/5192168_orig.png
In case anyone is worried about copyright claim, apparently the
original authors found the font on gimp, which is absurd because it's
not an in-built font so it must have been a system font that they just
casually assumed was free since they found it in gimp >.>
Regardless, I found the font as a free [as in beer] font on a font
sale website with the name matching and each letter meticulously
matching. Through there I found the author's website which is in
German and has many other font downloads of various styles. Through
google-translate I discovered that german text on the page said free
for "private" use, whatever that means (maybe if someone knows
German?) and they reiterated "you may use" multiple times in the
comments. Unfortunately, they seem to have a lot of fonts on the
website which they've been updating occasionally "Cloister Black"
included. In fact the name no longer shows "Cloister Black" on their
website and instead shows "Old English", but through the wayback
machine I found an archived version that shows "Cloister Black". I'll
post the link here when I get a chance, I saved it on my other
computer.
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[Tor, the Marqueteur]

Post by Peter Carlson
For me it really only works in the list. As stand alone I think it would
be a WTF moment.

I have to agree that as a stand-alone logo, the E would be entirely lost
on most people. Looks as much like random stuff settled in a crescent
moon as it does an E.

Tor

Post by Peter Carlson
I was wondering what people think of the Cloister Black letter E for
the EOMA logo. I can imagine that some people might find it hard to
read or understand. Legible enough any one would suppose?
http://www.deathnotenews.com/uploads/1/7/3/9/17393465/5192168_orig.png

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[John Luke Gibson]

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Post by Peter Carlson
For me it really only works in the list. As stand alone I think it would
be a WTF moment.

I have to agree that as a stand-alone logo, the E would be entirely lost
on most people. Looks as much like random stuff settled in a crescent
moon as it does an E.
Tor

Post by Peter Carlson
I was wondering what people think of the Cloister Black letter E for
the EOMA logo. I can imagine that some people might find it hard to
read or understand. Legible enough any one would suppose?
http://www.deathnotenews.com/uploads/1/7/3/9/17393465/5192168_orig.png

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I wouldn't really worry, as my intention is not to make a tribute to
Death Note as a whole so much as to make a subtle reference to the
character "L Lawliet"'s technical prowess and ethos. I figure the E
would be the most appropriate for various reasons pertaining to the
lore. Interestingly, I discovered that the letter "N" they used to
represent Near doesn't match the Cloister Black font they said they
used, but rather matches exactly another font made by the same author
a font with a much more clearly defined letter "E" [see link bellow],
which I find appropriate since it represents a new font to represent a
new generation.

What do y'all think of this letter E? Much more clear?

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Here is a link to the font download and license information (thankfully):

http://www.1001fonts.com/olde-english-font.html

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[Wolfram Kahl]

Post by John Luke Gibson
What do y'all think of this letter E? Much more clear?
http://txt.static.1001fonts.net/charmap/ttf/0/olde-english.regular.character-map-1.png
http://www.1001fonts.com/olde-english-font.html

I looked around a little bit, and the only blackletter capital E
that I thought might look good in isolation is the one from bastarda:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastarda
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[John Luke Gibson]

Post by Wolfram Kahl

Post by John Luke Gibson
What do y'all think of this letter E? Much more clear?
http://txt.static.1001fonts.net/charmap/ttf/0/olde-english.regular.character-map-1.png
http://www.1001fonts.com/olde-english-font.html

I looked around a little bit, and the only blackletter capital E
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastarda
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Pantographia.jpg
Wolfram
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I just realized how that was a whole chart not a single letter, so I'm
attaching a crop to just the "E" with this email. [not sure if
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[John Luke Gibson]

If that really was the very block font used by Gutenberg, that would
be interesting.
Wish the source for that stanza wasn't a book :c

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Post by Wolfram Kahl

Post by John Luke Gibson
What do y'all think of this letter E? Much more clear?
http://txt.static.1001fonts.net/charmap/ttf/0/olde-english.regular.character-map-1.png
Here is a link to the font download and license information
http://www.1001fonts.com/olde-english-font.html

I looked around a little bit, and the only blackletter capital E
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastarda
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Pantographia.jpg
Wolfram
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[John Luke Gibson]

@Chris, isn't the acronym for Embedded Open Modular Architecture?

Post by John Luke Gibson
If that really was the very block font used by Gutenberg, that would
be interesting.
Wish the source for that stanza wasn't a book :c

Post by John Luke Gibson

Post by Wolfram Kahl

Post by John Luke Gibson
What do y'all think of this letter E? Much more clear?
http://txt.static.1001fonts.net/charmap/ttf/0/olde-english.regular.character-map-1.png
Here is a link to the font download and license information
http://www.1001fonts.com/olde-english-font.html

I looked around a little bit, and the only blackletter capital E
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastarda
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Pantographia.jpg
Wolfram
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attaching a crop to just the "E" with this email. [not sure if
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[Christopher Havel]

Aw, crap, how'd I manage that one...?

That's just embarrassing.

Hold on folks, I can fix it.

Post by John Luke Gibson
@Chris, isn't the acronym for Embedded Open Modular Architecture?

Post by John Luke Gibson
If that really was the very block font used by Gutenberg, that would
be interesting.
Wish the source for that stanza wasn't a book :c

Post by John Luke Gibson

Post by Wolfram Kahl

Post by John Luke Gibson
What do y'all think of this letter E? Much more clear?
http://txt.static.1001fonts.net/charmap/ttf/0/olde-

english.regular.character-map-1.png

Post by John Luke Gibson

Post by John Luke Gibson

Post by Wolfram Kahl

Post by John Luke Gibson
http://www.1001fonts.com/olde-english-font.html

I looked around a little bit, and the only blackletter capital E
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastarda
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Pantographia.jpg
Wolfram
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[Christopher Havel]

Let's try this again...

Link to new album --> http://imgur.com/a/Zev1B

The rest remains the same.

[Tor, the Marqueteur]

Post by Christopher Havel
Let's try this again...
Link to new album --> http://imgur.com/a/Zev1B
The rest remains the same.

FWIW, I think that has merit. I think it has the possibility of
rendering down to two colours, as well. Also if I'm picturing correctly,
it should render legible if someone copies the full colour on a limited
greyscale BW copier or printer.

Tor

[John Luke Gibson]

I'm still of the opinion that there should be some intersexuality with
other groups, organizations, projects, events [historical or
otherwise], and/or popular culture. :P

No offense though(!), since it looks like ya put quite a bit of effort
into those.

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Post by Christopher Havel
Let's try this again...
Link to new album --> http://imgur.com/a/Zev1B
The rest remains the same.

FWIW, I think that has merit. I think it has the possibility of
rendering down to two colours, as well. Also if I'm picturing correctly,
it should render legible if someone copies the full colour on a limited
greyscale BW copier or printer.
Tor
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[pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)]

Post by John Luke Gibson
I'm still of the opinion that there should be some intersexuality with
other groups, organizations, projects, events [historical or
otherwise], and/or popular culture. :P
No offense though(!), since it looks like ya put quite a bit of effort
into those.

So people who don’t like the other group, organization, project or event
and/or popular culture don’t like EOMA? I disagree.

What about the number 68 in the logo though?

Regards,
Florian

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[Christopher Havel]

Decided to throw my hat into the ring. I needed to drag my Windows system
out anyways -- someone sent me a nice new Android tablet that forgets it's
been set up as soon as it shuts down... time to learn how to flash a tablet
image. Heh.

...anyways...

Here is an album of logo versions --> http://imgur.com/a/YoTJx

...I don't *think* that site has nasty germy ads, but Adblock Plus is a
handy thing to have enabled, in any event... ;)

You get three color versions -- one with the full text of the name, and two
different ones with just the acronym -- and three grayscale ("black and
white") versions -- two different ones with the full text, and one with
only the acronym. Each logo image is sized 3x5 inches, the size of a
US-issue 'flash card'. (No, no, the *paper* kind!)

Font is "Aero" --> http://www.dafont.com/aero2.font
...says "100% Free" in the license corner, which I take to mean "free for
all uses under the sun, including commercial stuff". IMPORTANT NOTE: I'm
not a lawyer -- my mother was, but not in that business sector, and she's
retired anyways.

Colors are in 24-bit RGB colorspace for the color versions and in 8-bit
grayscale colorspace for the grayscale versions. Colors and their RGB
values are as follows...

Blue is R 000 G 000 B 255
Green is R 000 G 255 B 000
Light Gray is R 128 G 128 B 128
Medium Gray is R 192 G 192 B 192
Dark Gray is R 223 G 223 B 223
Black is of course R 255 G 255 B 255

I have the original source files for you, Luke, if you want them; they are
unfortunately done in a closed-source graphics program (CorelDRAW X8
(that's version 18)) -- sorry, I just can't get my head around Inkscape and
its comparatively very strange and clunky interface. The source files are,
therefore, rendered as Corel *.cdr files, which may or may not import
gracefully into Inkscape later... if you want them, let me know and I'll
send them to the off-list GMail address I have on file for you and you can
do with them as you please.

[zap]

I really hope this doesn't become the standard for the keyboard. I
detest death note with a huge passion.

Post by John Luke Gibson
I was wondering what people think of the Cloister Black letter E for
the EOMA logo. I can imagine that some people might find it hard to
read or understand. Legible enough any one would suppose?
http://www.deathnotenews.com/uploads/1/7/3/9/17393465/5192168_orig.png
In case anyone is worried about copyright claim, apparently the
original authors found the font on gimp, which is absurd because it's
not an in-built font so it must have been a system font that they just
casually assumed was free since they found it in gimp >.>
Regardless, I found the font as a free [as in beer] font on a font
sale website with the name matching and each letter meticulously
matching. Through there I found the author's website which is in
German and has many other font downloads of various styles. Through
google-translate I discovered that german text on the page said free
for "private" use, whatever that means (maybe if someone knows
German?) and they reiterated "you may use" multiple times in the
comments. Unfortunately, they seem to have a lot of fonts on the
website which they've been updating occasionally "Cloister Black"
included. In fact the name no longer shows "Cloister Black" on their
website and instead shows "Old English", but through the wayback
machine I found an archived version that shows "Cloister Black". I'll
post the link here when I get a chance, I saved it on my other
computer.
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[Mike Leimon]

Okay, I feel like I should take a swing or two at this as well.

In the following two cases, there isn't any special font being used. I'm
just using inkscape to trace out the characters that I want show...

http://imgur.com/GrnfRHe

Of these two logos that I sent, my preference is for the second.

My personal opinion is that you shouldn't try and get too hung up about the
acronym that you are trying to capture and represent... (I say this even
though I did my best to incorporate the letters... blah). I think sometimes
that capturing the concept is more important than capturing the acronym.

Case in point, take a look at the USB logo:

Loading Image...

The logo is incredibly simple and doesn't try and spell out USB.. however,
it does capture the essence of the interface and what it seeks to
accomplish and I think that is what makes it memorable.

That is really all I wanted to drop by and say.
-Mike

[Peter Carlson]

I vote the second as well.

Post by Mike Leimon
Okay, I feel like I should take a swing or two at this as well.
In the following two cases, there isn't any special font being used. I'm
just using inkscape to trace out the characters that I want show...
http://imgur.com/GrnfRHe
Of these two logos that I sent, my preference is for the second.
My personal opinion is that you shouldn't try and get too hung up about
the acronym that you are trying to capture and represent... (I say this
even though I did my best to incorporate the letters... blah). I think
sometimes that capturing the concept is more important than capturing the
acronym.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cId-qdXRcqg/UXE0Nya6FAI/AAAAAAAAAPU/8KGiICpEQa0/s1600/Logo+USB.JPG
The logo is incredibly simple and doesn't try and spell out USB.. however,
it does capture the essence of the interface and what it seeks to
accomplish and I think that is what makes it memorable.
That is really all I wanted to drop by and say.
-Mike
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[Bill Kontos]

The second one look pretty nice. It gives me some more ideas too. I think
it could use some symmetries, maybe on a circle. Time to revitalize my GIMP
skills. I'll try to make something too. Besides logos are fun.

Post by Peter Carlson
I vote the second as well.

Post by Mike Leimon
Okay, I feel like I should take a swing or two at this as well.
In the following two cases, there isn't any special font being used. I'm
just using inkscape to trace out the characters that I want show...
http://imgur.com/GrnfRHe
Of these two logos that I sent, my preference is for the second.
My personal opinion is that you shouldn't try and get too hung up about
the acronym that you are trying to capture and represent... (I say this
even though I did my best to incorporate the letters... blah). I think
sometimes that capturing the concept is more important than capturing the
acronym.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cId-qdXRcqg/UXE0Nya6FAI/
AAAAAAAAAPU/8KGiICpEQa0/s1600/Logo+USB.JPG
The logo is incredibly simple and doesn't try and spell out USB..
however, it does capture the essence of the interface and what it seeks to
accomplish and I think that is what makes it memorable.
That is really all I wanted to drop by and say.
-Mike
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[Julie Marchant]

Post by Mike Leimon
Okay, I feel like I should take a swing or two at this as well.
In the following two cases, there isn't any special font being used. I'm
just using inkscape to trace out the characters that I want show...
http://imgur.com/GrnfRHe
Of these two logos that I sent, my preference is for the second.

The first one has something that looks suspiciously like a penis on the
bottom-right.

I'm sure it doesn't look like that if you're an electrical engineer, or
whatever, but people -- especially kids and teenagers -- *will* see
that, and that's probably not the kind of attention EOMA needs. :)

[Julie Marchant]

Post by Mike Leimon
Okay, I feel like I should take a swing or two at this as well.
In the following two cases, there isn't any special font being used. I'm
just using inkscape to trace out the characters that I want show...
http://imgur.com/GrnfRHe
Of these two logos that I sent, my preference is for the second.

By the way, I think these are the best logos I've seen on this list. The
only gripe I have (well, other than the unintentional phallus in the
first one) is that they don't really seem to represent modularity; the
first one, in particular, rather looks like a circuit board, and one of
the major points of EOMA is that users *don't* have to look at circuit
boards to perform upgrades; they just have to pop out a card and replace
it with another card. It seems like there must be some possible way to
use this basic logo concept to represent that somehow.

[Hendrik Boom]

Post by Julie Marchant

Post by Mike Leimon
Okay, I feel like I should take a swing or two at this as well.
In the following two cases, there isn't any special font being used. I'm
just using inkscape to trace out the characters that I want show...
http://imgur.com/GrnfRHe
Of these two logos that I sent, my preference is for the second.

By the way, I think these are the best logos I've seen on this list. The
only gripe I have (well, other than the unintentional phallus in the
first one) is that they don't really seem to represent modularity; the
first one, in particular, rather looks like a circuit board, and one of
the major points of EOMA is that users *don't* have to look at circuit
boards to perform upgrades; they just have to pop out a card and replace
it with another card. It seems like there must be some possible way to
use this basic logo concept to represent that somehow.

At the very least, then, the logic gates should be inside the box.

-- henrik

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[Hrvoje Lasic]

Post by Julie Marchant

Post by Mike Leimon
Okay, I feel like I should take a swing or two at this as well.
In the following two cases, there isn't any special font being used. I'm
just using inkscape to trace out the characters that I want show...
http://imgur.com/GrnfRHe
Of these two logos that I sent, my preference is for the second.

By the way, I think these are the best logos I've seen on this list. The
only gripe I have (well, other than the unintentional phallus in the
first one) is that they don't really seem to represent modularity; the
first one, in particular, rather looks like a circuit board, and one of
the major points of EOMA is that users *don't* have to look at circuit
boards to perform upgrades; they just have to pop out a card and replace
it with another card. It seems like there must be some possible way to
use this basic logo concept to represent that somehow.

But also keep in mind that logo is about identity, not business model that
exist today. Who knows what tomorrow brings. So, if you go one step up from
modularity there is idea of saving resources by reusing stuff, opens
software etc. So, if you say you swap cards you somehow limit yourself.

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Post by Hrvoje Lasic

Post by Julie Marchant

Post by Mike Leimon
Okay, I feel like I should take a swing or two at this as well.
In the following two cases, there isn't any special font being used. I'm
just using inkscape to trace out the characters that I want show...
http://imgur.com/GrnfRHe
Of these two logos that I sent, my preference is for the second.

By the way, I think these are the best logos I've seen on this list. The
only gripe I have (well, other than the unintentional phallus in the
first one) is that they don't really seem to represent modularity; the
first one, in particular, rather looks like a circuit board, and one of
the major points of EOMA is that users *don't* have to look at circuit
boards to perform upgrades; they just have to pop out a card and replace
it with another card. It seems like there must be some possible way to
use this basic logo concept to represent that somehow.

But also keep in mind that logo is about identity, not business model that
exist today.

Are we looking for a logo for a business?
Or a logo for a standard? or a standards organisation?

-- hendrik

Post by Hrvoje Lasic
Who knows what tomorrow brings. So, if you go one step up from
modularity there is idea of saving resources by reusing stuff, opens
software etc. So, if you say you swap cards you somehow limit yourself.

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[John Luke Gibson]

Post by Mike Leimon
Okay, I feel like I should take a swing or two at this as well.
In the following two cases, there isn't any special font being used. I'm
just using inkscape to trace out the characters that I want show...
http://imgur.com/GrnfRHe
Of these two logos that I sent, my preference is for the second.
My personal opinion is that you shouldn't try and get too hung up about the
acronym that you are trying to capture and represent... (I say this even
though I did my best to incorporate the letters... blah). I think sometimes
that capturing the concept is more important than capturing the acronym.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cId-qdXRcqg/UXE0Nya6FAI/AAAAAAAAAPU/8KGiICpEQa0/s1600/Logo+USB.JPG
The logo is incredibly simple and doesn't try and spell out USB.. however,
it does capture the essence of the interface and what it seeks to
accomplish and I think that is what makes it memorable.
That is really all I wanted to drop by and say.
-Mike

The problem with that is that we aren't just talking about one
standard, but in the end we are talking about multiple very similar
standards, so it would probably be more confusing not to incorporate
textual reference that easily can be searched as a keyword to find out
what the symbol means. The numbers and letters probably have to be
incorporated, as inelegant as it may sound.

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[Mike Leimon]

Post by Julie Marchant
The first one has something that looks suspiciously like a penis on the
bottom-right.
I'm sure it doesn't look like that if you're an electrical engineer, or
whatever, but people -- especially kids and teenagers -- *will* see
that, and that's probably not the kind of attention EOMA needs. :)

My apologies for the unintended phallic imagery... That wasn't what I was
aiming for. I was actually just trying to use some different EE symbols to
reconstruct the `M` and the `A` of EOMA. I was using the list of symbols
from the following reference.

http://rapidtables.com/electric/electrical_symbols.htm

I think the offending symbol you are referring to is the `OR` symbol.

Just to better explain what I was aiming at, I took some colors to the
original
symbols to highlight the individual letter representations.

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In the color coded (first) version the E is in red, O is in blue, M is in
green and A is in pink.

Post by Julie Marchant
By the way, I think these are the best logos I've seen on this list. The
only gripe I have (well, other than the unintentional phallus in the
first one) is that they don't really seem to represent modularity; the
first one, in particular, rather looks like a circuit board, and one of
the major points of EOMA is that users *don't* have to look at circuit
boards to perform upgrades; they just have to pop out a card and replace
it with another card. It seems like there must be some possible way to
use this basic logo concept to represent that somehow.

In both of the logos that sent out the `E` was actually supposed to
represent an
EOMA CPU/passthrough card. That is why it looks like a squatty elongated E.
I
represented the O in the way that I did as I wanted it to represent the
PCMCIA slot or
housing that it fits into. So together the E and the O represent a modular
CPU card
being inserted into a device/housing. For the first logo I was intending to
show that
the specification provides an incredibly low level connection between the
CPU card
and the housing.

For the second logo... I was thinking that I liked some of the ideas and
imagery of the
first but that it was way too busy. Plus and end user might get a bit
bewildered by it.

Oh and I have one more general comment about logo creation of this sort...
I think that
it is very important to make sure it will look good rendered in only black
and white because,
that is essentially what it is going to look like when the
logo/certification mark gets
silk-screened onto a product.

-Mike

[Alain Williams]

Post by Mike Leimon
http://i.imgur.com/jjUbFx5.png
...
Oh and I have one more general comment about logo creation of this sort...
I think that
it is very important to make sure it will look good rendered in only black
and white because,
that is essentially what it is going to look like when the
logo/certification mark gets
silk-screened onto a product.

And also low resolution especially when scaled so that it is really small - eg
the side of some box. This is my objection to the top of the two logos that you have.
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I'm not entirely sure why resolution should be relevant. Something
without small defining characteristics that are unclear or illegible
when the resolution is low might be desire-able, but I would assume so
long as any is still atleast 10 pt font when shrunk to 3cm on its
widest dimension, it should be sufficient.

Post by Alain Williams

Post by Mike Leimon
http://i.imgur.com/jjUbFx5.png
...
Oh and I have one more general comment about logo creation of this sort...
I think that
it is very important to make sure it will look good rendered in only black
and white because,
that is essentially what it is going to look like when the
logo/certification mark gets
silk-screened onto a product.

And also low resolution especially when scaled so that it is really small - eg
the side of some box. This is my objection to the top of the two logos that you have.
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Post by John Luke Gibson
I'm not entirely sure why resolution should be relevant. Something
without small defining characteristics that are unclear or illegible
when the resolution is low might be desire-able, but I would assume so
long as any is still atleast 10 pt font when shrunk to 3cm on its
widest dimension, it should be sufficient.

Depends on what the logo is for. As a certification mark, without
checking, I want to say that typical is the logo in a 3/4"x3/4" box.
That's usually full-colour in good printing, though. Then again, the
resolution is good enough that less important text can probably be
allowed to go down to 8pt.

For an EOMA-X certification mark, I'd be inclined to say that EOMA and
the number referencing which set of housings should have a version very
similar to the [full-colour] standard version that could even be
injection molded into a plug. To wit, the EOMA-68 breakout board should
be able to have the certification mark silkscreened onto it or molded
into some part of the very minimal case it may have.

Tor

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Post by Mike Leimon
http://i.imgur.com/jjUbFx5.png
...
Oh and I have one more general comment about logo creation of this sort...
I think that
it is very important to make sure it will look good rendered in only black
and white because,
that is essentially what it is going to look like when the
logo/certification mark gets
silk-screened onto a product.

And also low resolution especially when scaled so that it is really small - eg
the side of some box. This is my objection to the top of the two logos that you have.
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