[Arm-netbook] why i am persisting with this project

[Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton]

several people have left this mailing list, or have become lurkers, or
are no longer actively supporting the project, yet i am absolutely
committed to it despite that.

if you would like to know why that is, this is the reason:

http://www.theautomaticearth.com/2015/08/deflation-debt-and-gravity/

l.

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[Paul Boddie]

Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
several people have left this mailing list, or have become lurkers, or
are no longer actively supporting the project, yet i am absolutely
committed to it despite that.

I'm certainly looking forward to a successful campaign and the availability of
the EOMA-68 cards and the micro-desktop. Are we any closer to you pushing the
big green "go" button? :-)

Paul

P.S. Political rant follows; feel free to ignore...

Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
http://www.theautomaticearth.com/2015/08/deflation-debt-and-gravity/

Sadly, too many people believe in the false and insensitive analogies applied
to the Greek situation of household indebtedness (debunked by Krugman, I
believe) and obesity (absurd in itself), with the tired phrase "tightening the
belt" bridging the two. The fact is that pan-European economic policies and a
dose of punitive austerity appears to have worsened the competitiveness of the
Greek economy to the point of collapse, and yet the creditors demand even
better performance than before.

Naturally, this comes at a considerable cost to the Greek people. One would
have thought that supposedly committed Europeans would understand the perils
of their policies and decisions, but I suppose it merely illustrates a
hypothesis I have that at least half the Nobel Peace Prize winners are brought
into considerable disrepute within only a few years of winning the prize,
undermining the credibility of the prize itself.

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[Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton]

Post by Paul Boddie

Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
several people have left this mailing list, or have become lurkers, or
are no longer actively supporting the project, yet i am absolutely
committed to it despite that.

I'm certainly looking forward to a successful campaign and the availability of
the EOMA-68 cards and the micro-desktop. Are we any closer to you pushing the
big green "go" button? :-)

ehh still haven't heard from my preferred factory (the one i've been
in contact with for years) after they had that surprise tax audit. i
wonder if they've had a bit more attention than they've said they've
had (for example, email communications monitored and censored)...

Post by Paul Boddie
Paul
P.S. Political rant follows; feel free to ignore...

Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
http://www.theautomaticearth.com/2015/08/deflation-debt-and-gravity/

Sadly, too many people believe in the false and insensitive analogies applied
to the Greek situation of household indebtedness (debunked by Krugman, I
believe) and obesity (absurd in itself), with the tired phrase "tightening the
belt" bridging the two. The fact is that pan-European economic policies and a
dose of punitive austerity appears to have worsened the competitiveness of the
Greek economy to the point of collapse, and yet the creditors demand even
better performance than before.

denial is easy. find an excuse outside of yourself and believe it
with your entire heart and mind. everyone does it to some extent.

the thing is, on all of these political forums (the a.e. included) i
quite literally do not see *anyone* offering any kind of solutions.
all i see is people talking about the problem (or denying that it
exists). to find "solutions" - or people taking action - you usually
have to look elsewhere, such as at "permaculture" or google "tent
cities", and other such things.

wow there's 6 tent cities in california and 5 in washington. "tent
city urbanism" looks pretty interesting.

l.

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Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
several people have left this mailing list, or have become lurkers, or
are no longer actively supporting the project, yet i am absolutely
committed to it despite that.

Hi Luke, Sorry to be such a lurker. But I applaud you for being so
persistent. And i'm really looking forward to seeing the results of that
persistence. I understand that building a prototype is relatively ease
compared to getting something producible.

We've become so accustomed to new products on a less than annual pace that
we fail to see that a new product starts at least 5 years before
production. Which means that at least 4 new products are in the process of
being created when something new comes out. And thats for company with deep
pockets.

So for now I'm only able support you mentally.

Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
http://www.theautomaticearth.com/2015/08/deflation-debt-and-gravity/

Since we're going there...

I'm and IT Consultant by trade (SAP Basis), And I sometimes say to have on
of most useless jobs there are. Don't get me wrong; I like the work and
people are generally happy with the results I produce. But basically I
press buttons all day.

A handful of farmers produce enough food for the larger part of the people
to do these "unproductive" types of jobs. Which strikes me as odd every now
and then. I Know that these jobs as well as mine are a result of 'organic'
evolution of competition.

But I does look that we've constructed a babel tower, full of virtual
columns (finacial system), That's slowly beginning to collapse.

I just try to remember that there is no 'prefect' system to accommodate us.
Communism seems to come close. But our ow human nature doesn't allow it.
It's susceptible to corruption and inequality. And the basic fact that
there is no incentive left to 'do' things or do them better and loss of
choice. Democracy, Autocracy, Dictatorship. Other, same or bigger issues. I
still think democracy is the best option. But it does imply getting
involved, all of us.

Usually then I confuse people with the notion that materials are free. Why?
There in/on the ground. You're paying the people getting them.

So paying 66%, which you get to quite easily here in the NL, on taxes
actually means that you have two people working for you or on your money
hired by your government. Sounds like Communism doesn't it? And ten you go
out and pay some more for the products/materials you actually need.

...

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l.
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[Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton]

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
several people have left this mailing list, or have become lurkers, or
are no longer actively supporting the project, yet i am absolutely
committed to it despite that.

Hi Luke, Sorry to be such a lurker.

it's ok :)

Post by m***@gmail.com
But I applaud you for being so
persistent. And i'm really looking forward to seeing the results of that
persistence. I understand that building a prototype is relatively ease
compared to getting something producible.

yehh, i can make some guesses - i do know it's entirely different
making decisions based on expecting to go to mass-volume. i could
have had this out the door years ago if it was only to be a 1k or even
a 10k production run.... price would have been 3x higher though...

Post by m***@gmail.com
We've become so accustomed to new products on a less than annual pace that
we fail to see that a new product starts at least 5 years before production.
Which means that at least 4 new products are in the process of being created
when something new comes out. And thats for company with deep pockets.

lucky then that i'm designing products that can be continuously
upgraded for years (until they fall apart well outside of warranty)
then, eh? :)

Post by m***@gmail.com
So for now I'm only able support you mentally.

:)

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
http://www.theautomaticearth.com/2015/08/deflation-debt-and-gravity/

But I does look that we've constructed a babel tower, full of virtual
columns (finacial system), That's slowly beginning to collapse.

well as long as the world banks keep on printing more and more money,
hyper-inflating the currencies, it'll be fine. the moment they stop
doing that, it's all over.

Post by m***@gmail.com
So paying 66%, which you get to quite easily here in the NL, on taxes
actually means that you have two people working for you or on your money
hired by your government. Sounds like Communism doesn't it? And ten you go
out and pay some more for the products/materials you actually need.

:)

y'know... i've been conversing with someone who joined the hari
krishnas (yeh, i know...) and he's been touring the USA for several
months now, looking for technology and people who can help his
community to be stable and self-supporting. hemp for oil / fuel
production so the community can make what it needs and sell the rest
etc.

so i'm paying a lot more attention to things like the report on
slashdot where a geek stopped using AC electricity altogether in his
San Fransisco flat:
http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/08/04/1910251/giving-up-alternating-current

yes it's a bit mad to do away with a kitchen, but he's in *san
fransisco*. he can eat out, with friends.

but what struck me most about what he wrote was the chain of
efficiency losses in charging up a mobile phone. when they're all
added up you only get *25 percent* efficiency. i bet that's a
conservative estimate (i'm sure he's edited that recently, the numbers
used to say 16%, i think it was because he assumed 50% efficiency of
the switched-mode power supply on the phone charger).

think about that: in his city, they burn 4 tons of coal to utilise
the energy of 1 ton of coal. 3 tons wasted. i hear a similar story
about barrels of oil - how it takes 3 barrels of oil to *deliver* 1
barrel of fuel to the petrol station. it's certainly a conservative
estimate because he hasn't taken into consideration the coal
extraction and delivery process...

question: how long do we think this can continue?

so anyway, in the meantime, _before_ it all goes to shit, i can't
sell these EOMA68 products based on a message "you're alll gonna
dieeeee" :) and when there's people running around like headless
chickens, it's gonna be a bit late anyway.

so, irony, irony, i have to pretend all this ain't happening, and
design the products based around the upgradeability, flexibility and
cost-saving angles.

gotta love it, huh? :)

l.

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[Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton]

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Alexander Stephen Thomas Ross

Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
several people have left this mailing list, or have become lurkers, or
are no longer actively supporting the project, yet i am absolutely
committed to it despite that.

its a relief to know someone like you, is seeing a project like this though.

Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
http://www.theautomaticearth.com/2015/08/deflation-debt-and-gravity/

mmh made for good reading, thx.
ive been feeling guilty, as ive been meaning to try to improv the home
page and yet I have not yet done it....

the eco "guilt-trip" stuff has to go, moved to its own page. that's
the main thing.

message has to be "it'll save money, it's cool, it's upgradeable and
shareable".

l.

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