[Arm-netbook] Another ARM new baby on the market

[Erix]

Hi everybody,

what do you think of this new toy?
http://www.lemaker.org/

I must admit their communication is a bit "ambigious",
especially when they're talking about the Raspberry Pi compatibility..

if it's about pinout compatibility, I would say great.
but on some of their sentences/phrases, we could almost think
you could run the same "images" (sdcard) or binaries...
from the Raspberry Pi on their "Banana Pi"....

They're saying they support Debian, Ubuntu, Android (4.4) but they don't
give URL where to find all of these distros..

Caracteristics:
CPU A20 ARM® Cortex™-A7 Dual-Core
GPU ARM Mali400MP2 Complies with OpenGL ES 2.0/1.1
Memory (SDRAM) 1GB DDR3 (shared with GPU)

Onboard Storage SD (Max. 64GB) / MMC card slot UP to 2T on SATA disk

Onboard Network 10/100/1000 Ethernet RJ45 (optional USB WIFI Dongle)

Camera Input A CSI input connector allows for the connection of a designed
camera module

Sound Input Mic

Video Outputs HDMI, CVBS , LVDS/RGB

Audio Output 3.5 mm Jack and HDMI

Power Source 5 volt via MicroUSB(DC In Only) and/or MicroUSB (OTG)

USB 2.0 Ports 2 (direct from Allwinner A20 chip)

Buttons Reset button: Next to MicroUSB connector

Power button: Next to Reset button

UBoot button (optional): Behind HDMI connector

GPIO(2X13) pin: GPIO,UART,I2C bus,SPI bus with two chip selects,
CAN bus,ADC,PWM,+3.3v,+5v,ground.

LED Power Status LED (Red)

Ethernet Status LED (Blue)

User Define LED (Green)

Remote IR


good things: LAN 10/100/1000, Sata, HDMI, CVBS , LVDS/RGB, Camera...

Why not?
I saw the price around 57/60$ + delivery if I remember well.

Will see.

Bye bye for now
Regards
Erix
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[peter green]

Post by Erix
if it's about pinout compatibility, I would say great.
but on some of their sentences/phrases, we could almost think
you could run the same "images" (sdcard) or binaries...
from the Raspberry Pi on their "Banana Pi"....

You certainly aren't going to run an unmodified raspberry Pi image on
the thing. It's a completely different SoC and will need a different
kernel and bootloader.

Userland binaries that don't depend on Pi specific stuff should run
though. I suspect the screenshot I saw of it running pistore is real.

The page you linked doesn't seem to have any links to actually buy the
thing and I saw another page about it at http://www.bananapi.org/ which
appears to have buying links but when you actually click them they don't
go anywhere. The pictures on the two sites also seem to have slightly
different connector arrangements.

Overall it seems to be being run by a group who haven't quite got their
shit together, if I'd designed a system arround the raspberry Pi form
factor and then realised I needed more CPU power I might consider it,
otherwise i'd probablly go for a product from a vendor who seem more
competant.

[mike.valk]

Post by Erix
if it's about pinout compatibility, I would say great.
but on some of their sentences/phrases, we could almost think
you could run the same "images" (sdcard) or binaries...
from the Raspberry Pi on their "Banana Pi"....

You certainly aren't going to run an unmodified raspberry Pi image on the
thing. It's a completely different SoC and will need a different kernel and
bootloader.
Userland binaries that don't depend on Pi specific stuff should run
though. I suspect the screenshot I saw of it running pistore is real.
The page you linked doesn't seem to have any links to actually buy the
thing and I saw another page about it at http://www.bananapi.org/ which
appears to have buying links but when you actually click them they don't go
anywhere. The pictures on the two sites also seem to have slightly
different connector arrangements.
Overall it seems to be being run by a group who haven't quite got their
shit together, if I'd designed a system arround the raspberry Pi form
factor and then realised I needed more CPU power I might consider it,
otherwise i'd probablly go for a product from a vendor who seem more
competant.

Something like the HummingBoard:
http://imx.solid-run.com/wiki/index.php?title=HummingBoard_Hardware

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[peter green]

Post by mike.valk
http://imx.solid-run.com/wiki/index.php?title=HummingBoard_Hardware

The impression I got was that they weren't planing to sell the thing,
only make a handful to give to developers.

Has that changed?

[Erix]

Hi,

for the 2 URL I gave earlier
http://http://bananapi.org/#
and
http://http://www.lemaker.org/
it looks like they point to the same product.

for buying it, there are plenty of vendors:
http://www.alibaba.com/products/F0/banana_pi/----------------------50/3.html

Thanks to Peter Green about his comment about Raspberry Pi's image:
"
You certainly aren't going to run an unmodified raspberry Pi image on
the thing. It's a completely different SoC and will need a different
kernel and bootloader.
"

It's clearly what I thought, but their synthaxes on their websites is
deliberately
not clear and maintains the ambiguity. Thanks to Peter.

I saw somewhere on one of the 2 websites it's an Opensource project and they
will "publish" sources for the images (SDCARDs) soon.. we'll see.
The things that could be interessting it's examples of using the cameras
port and the LVDS port and of course bootloader.

so well, "nice.." website but not too much tecnical informations yet..



Bye bye for now
Erix
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