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[Arm-netbook] EOMA68 Router Ethernet Speed
Erik Auerswald
2017-05-19 11:32:38 UTC
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Hi,

on http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/router/news/, the text and
picture feature Gigabit Ethernet interfaces. Just one sentence mentions
10/100 Ethernet in passing.

IMHO that is misleading. AFAIU the QCA9531 provides Fast Ethernet only,
*NOT* Gigabit Ethernet. Thus please change any occurrences of GBE/GbE/Gbe
or similar with FE, perhaps excluding the very first sentence.

While Fast Ethernet is good enough for most uses, it is not Gigabit
Ethernet. Please correct the web page.

Thanks,
Erik
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Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2017-05-19 14:55:18 UTC
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On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Erik Auerswald
Post by Erik Auerswald
Hi,
on http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/router/news/, the text and
picture feature Gigabit Ethernet interfaces. Just one sentence mentions
10/100 Ethernet in passing.
IMHO that is misleading. AFAIU the QCA9531 provides Fast Ethernet only,
*NOT* Gigabit Ethernet. Thus please change any occurrences of GBE/GbE/Gbe
or similar with FE, perhaps excluding the very first sentence.
While Fast Ethernet is good enough for most uses, it is not Gigabit
Ethernet. Please correct the web page.
erik: it's an editable web page, being a wiki, so you can do that
yourself. to stop spam i've had to set a password for creating
accounts, and it's "passwordreqd".

so whilst i'm delighted that you've highlighted some errors, the
wording you're using "please correct the page" is not appropriate to
use for a libre community project. the words you _meant_ to use are,
"how can this page be changed" or "would someone like to *consider*
changing the page" or "can i invite you to *consider* changing the
page".

basically anything which gives the expactation that someone *will* act
on your behalf to action your wishes, when you're part of the
community by being here and i've provided you with the right - and the
trust - to action your wishes without immediate oversight or direct
permission being required.

so. do you want to try editing the page yourself, or does anyone else
want to action erik's valuable contribution?

l.

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Erik Auerswald
2017-05-19 16:54:25 UTC
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Hi Luke,
Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Erik Auerswald
Post by Erik Auerswald
on http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/router/news/, the text and
picture feature Gigabit Ethernet interfaces. Just one sentence mentions
10/100 Ethernet in passing.
IMHO that is misleading. AFAIU the QCA9531 provides Fast Ethernet only,
*NOT* Gigabit Ethernet. Thus please change any occurrences of GBE/GbE/Gbe
or similar with FE, perhaps excluding the very first sentence.
While Fast Ethernet is good enough for most uses, it is not Gigabit
Ethernet. Please correct the web page.
erik: it's an editable web page, being a wiki, so you can do that
yourself. to stop spam i've had to set a password for creating
accounts, and it's "passwordreqd".
so whilst i'm delighted that you've highlighted some errors, the
wording you're using "please correct the page" is not appropriate to
use for a libre community project. the words you _meant_ to use are,
"how can this page be changed" or "would someone like to *consider*
changing the page" or "can i invite you to *consider* changing the
page".
Please excuse my insensitivity (or not, as you like, I do not intend to
make you feel obligated to do anything). No offense intended.
Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
basically anything which gives the expactation that someone *will* act
on your behalf to action your wishes, when you're part of the
community by being here and i've provided you with the right - and the
trust - to action your wishes without immediate oversight or direct
permission being required.
so. do you want to try editing the page yourself, or does anyone else
want to action erik's valuable contribution?
I have changed the text to use Fast Ethernet instead of the incorrect Gbe.

I have not changed the image.

Would you like to consider changing what is probably text in some CAD
program to read "FE" instead of "GBE", re-export the schematic as an
image and upload the more correct version? I expect that to look much
better than me trying to change the image with an image editor.

IMHO promoting a better specification than intended to deliver is
dangerous for the project's reputation.

Thanks,
Erik
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Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2017-05-19 17:26:19 UTC
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On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Erik Auerswald
Post by Erik Auerswald
Hi Luke,
Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Erik Auerswald
Post by Erik Auerswald
on http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/router/news/, the text and
picture feature Gigabit Ethernet interfaces. Just one sentence mentions
10/100 Ethernet in passing.
IMHO that is misleading. AFAIU the QCA9531 provides Fast Ethernet only,
*NOT* Gigabit Ethernet. Thus please change any occurrences of GBE/GbE/Gbe
or similar with FE, perhaps excluding the very first sentence.
While Fast Ethernet is good enough for most uses, it is not Gigabit
Ethernet. Please correct the web page.
erik: it's an editable web page, being a wiki, so you can do that
yourself. to stop spam i've had to set a password for creating
accounts, and it's "passwordreqd".
so whilst i'm delighted that you've highlighted some errors, the
wording you're using "please correct the page" is not appropriate to
use for a libre community project. the words you _meant_ to use are,
"how can this page be changed" or "would someone like to *consider*
changing the page" or "can i invite you to *consider* changing the
page".
Please excuse my insensitivity (or not, as you like, I do not intend to
make you feel obligated to do anything). No offense intended.
none taken.
Post by Erik Auerswald
Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
basically anything which gives the expactation that someone *will* act
on your behalf to action your wishes, when you're part of the
community by being here and i've provided you with the right - and the
trust - to action your wishes without immediate oversight or direct
permission being required.
so. do you want to try editing the page yourself, or does anyone else
want to action erik's valuable contribution?
I have changed the text to use Fast Ethernet instead of the incorrect Gbe.
awesome.
Post by Erik Auerswald
I have not changed the image.
Would you like to consider changing what is probably text in some CAD
program to read "FE" instead of "GBE", re-export the schematic as an
image and upload the more correct version? I expect that to look much
better than me trying to change the image with an image editor.
done... and i used... an image editor :) (gimp 2.8. why is gimp 2.8
so much worse a UI than 2.6??)
Post by Erik Auerswald
IMHO promoting a better specification than intended to deliver is
dangerous for the project's reputation.
yehyeh absolutely - i just didn't know. and have so much else to do,
i didn't check which is why this is a public project so that people
_can_ make it known.

so, thank you eric.

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Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2017-05-19 17:31:26 UTC
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ok fast ethernet is just another name for 10/100. always learning
something new.

btw one thing i will be doing is splitting that PCB into two
(stacked). funnily enough the PCB with EOMA68 on it will be.... a
Mini-Desktop! i'll just need to use the exact same PCB4 from... the
laptop project! strange how it's all sort-of fitting together...

l.

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Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2017-05-25 20:32:11 UTC
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Post by Erik Auerswald
Hi Luke,
Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
funnily enough the PCB with EOMA68 on it will be.... a
Mini-Desktop! i'll just need to use the exact same PCB4 from... the
laptop project!
How will this affect e.g. the presence of HDMI?
not at all.

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