[Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook: I just was reading some old logs,

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and I wondered, whenever the eoma68 standard libre laptop is released,

I recall you saying the 4.9 kernel doesn't give 100% functionality, I
just wondered two things:

One, how much % of functionality would work, and how much wouldn't work

Two, could it be loaded temporarily until I add a new kernel (if I went
down the devuan route especially)

I only ask for this info because of curiosity.  That's all.

I mean, would I notice anything happen that's major or would it be
something minor to me such as hdmi... just curious.


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http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/pipermail/arm-netbook/2017-February/012942.html
http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/pipermail/arm-netbook/2013-June/thread.html#7620

These are the relevant threads and emails that I found.

Ultimately there are just unidentified broken drivers and it would
just take an unpredictable amount of effort to even determine which
ones.

All necessary drivers and firmware are present, only some function
and/or variable names were likely changed somewhere down the line
which weren't properly updated for all drivers.

I'm sure this type of thing is fairly common.

Disclaimer: not a programmer; likely very incorrect.

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From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <***@lkcl.net>
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 05:45:44 +0000
Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] systemd and kernel: 3.4, mainline

And now I hear that A20 card will be shipped with kernel 3.4. Sure, it's
not lower than 3.2 but how long will glibc support 3.4? What about other
packages?

Actually, mainline support for A20 isn't that bad, depending on your
specific use case.
Check http://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort. It's fairly good
for headless servers, less so for tablets and desktops. And there is
(slow) progress, so its future isn't too bleak.

yeahhh, it's the lack of desktop support that's the main concern.
i'd like to be able to say that it will be possible to fund the
mainlining support but it isn't, right now.

also, as i mentioned earlier, the A20's running out of time. i'm
going to have to ship with only an older toshipba 1MB or even just a
128kb NAND flash because it's getting harder and harder to find
so-called "legacy" NAND flash ICs in TSSOP packaging that the A20's
brain-dead boot ROM recognises.

so now you may gain some understanding why the RK3288 board is so important.

(a) it's got full mainline support
(b) it's just as libre as the A20 Card
(c) it has mass-volume support
(d) it's had a chromebook and more made around it
(e) it's been around long enough to have all the problems ironed out
(f) the technical reference manuals are now online
(g) it's possible to get Reference Designs for $USD 25.

that DOES NOT mean that the A20 board is not important: it is critical
at this early phase.

l.

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Post by Jean Flamelle
yeahhh, it's the lack of desktop support that's the main concern.
i'd like to be able to say that it will be possible to fund the
mainlining support but it isn't, right now.
also, as i mentioned earlier, the A20's running out of time. i'm
going to have to ship with only an older toshipba 1MB or even just a
128kb NAND flash because it's getting harder and harder to find
so-called "legacy" NAND flash ICs in TSSOP packaging that the A20's
brain-dead boot ROM recognises.
so now you may gain some understanding why the RK3288 board is so important.
(a) it's got full mainline support
(b) it's just as libre as the A20 Card
(c) it has mass-volume support
(d) it's had a chromebook and more made around it
(e) it's been around long enough to have all the problems ironed out
(f) the technical reference manuals are now online
(g) it's possible to get Reference Designs for $USD 25.
that DOES NOT mean that the A20 board is not important: it is critical
at this early phase.
l.

Thanks for the insight now I have a good idea what is going on... I look
forward to the RK3288.

I highly recommend you get the reference designs then. :)

though I am curious, this is also your email?

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That was an old email I found searching my inbox rather than
"site:https://lists.phcomp.co.uk/pipermail/arm-netbook/".

Didn't mean any confusion by forwarding it instead of quoting it.

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look up on sunxi wiki mainline a20

Post by Jean Flamelle
That was an old email I found searching my inbox rather than
"site:https://lists.phcomp.co.uk/pipermail/arm-netbook/".
Didn't mean any confusion by forwarding it instead of quoting it.
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