[Arm-netbook] Laptop LCD Touch Pad: Display KB Layout Idea

[Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton]

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:56 AM, Alexander Ross

On the laptops lcd touch pad. Here’s a idea for a feature.
What if the lcd touch pad displayed the current pressed keys? Maybe on a
image of the keyboard, meaning some way of representing where the key
you pressed is relative to other keys.
As for when the user is using not the touch pad nor the keyboard? What
then? display keymap? If playing video display: video controls, time
left, is internet speed fast enough for this stream? etc.

yeah. fantastic stuff. all these ideas and more are possible, and
guess what? users will be free to write them as they'll have control
over their own hardware.

l.

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[Allan Mwenda]

People use dovrak? ;)
This is a nice idea, but wait, the laptop has an LCD touchpad? *runs to reinspect specs*

On the laptops lcd touch pad. Here’s a idea for a feature.
When leaning new keyboard layout. Say dovrak for example. The trouble
is
learning where the new keys are. For me at least, one could do with a
constant reminder.
What if the lcd touch pad displayed the current pressed keys? Maybe on
a
image of the keyboard, meaning some way of representing where the key
you pressed is relative to other keys.
So if its the wrong one you can see where the right one is. This info
is
only displayed while the keyboard is in use. When the touch pad is in
use it switches to a relevant display for touch pad use.
As for when the user is using not the touch pad nor the keyboard? What
then? display keymap? If playing video display: video controls, time
left, is internet speed fast enough for this stream? etc.
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Post by Allan Mwenda
People use dovrak? ;)
This is a nice idea, but wait, the laptop has an LCD touchpad? *runs to reinspect specs*

3.5in instead of a trackpad. getting hold of trackpads with buttons
is a total bitch. i tried looking, about ten to fifteen times. give
it a shot, yourself. do a search for "china trackpad supplier"...
it'll be a laugh.

l.

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[Allan Mwenda]

I love the one on my old HP-Compaq here, Fedora detects it well. I should probably test it on Parabola first though, but its nice with rubber buttons for right and left click and demarcated right edge for scrolling up and down. They don't make em like this anymore I swear.

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Post by Allan Mwenda
People use dovrak? ;)
This is a nice idea, but wait, the laptop has an LCD touchpad? *runs

to

Post by Allan Mwenda
reinspect specs*

3.5in instead of a trackpad. getting hold of trackpads with buttons
is a total bitch. i tried looking, about ten to fifteen times. give
it a shot, yourself. do a search for "china trackpad supplier"...
it'll be a laugh.
l.
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[Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton]

Post by Allan Mwenda
I love the one on my old HP-Compaq here, Fedora detects it well. I should
probably test it on Parabola first though, but its nice with rubber buttons
for right and left click and demarcated right edge for scrolling up and
down. They don't make em like this anymore I swear.

... and even if they did, you can't find the manufacturer (because
the entire keyword space "trackpad" is deluged with a hundred thousand
copies of the exact same product... on aliexpress and alibaba). if
you _could_ find the manufacturer they'd tell you it was no longer
made. if they _did_ have it they'd ask you if you were a new rep for
HP, and how many millions of units you wanted to buy.

the moment you say "i'm not with HP, i'd like 200 please" there would
be this strange silence whilst they worked out if you were serious
about destroying their million-dollar relationship for the sake of
$500, by asking them to violate the copyright and trademarks of their
partners, HP.

... so no. no trackpad.

l.

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[Ralf-Peter Rohbeck via arm-netbook]

Just saw this on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/5rhuig/til_intels_creditcard_sized_modular_computer_is/

Ralf-Peter


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[Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton]

cool, thanks ralf-peter.
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On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:00 PM, Ralf-Peter Rohbeck via arm-netbook

Post by Ralf-Peter Rohbeck via arm-netbook
https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/5rhuig/til_intels_creditcard_sized_modular_computer_is/
Ralf-Peter
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On Thursday 2. February 2017 00.00.01 Ralf-Peter Rohbeck via arm-netbook
https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/5rhuig/til_intels_creditcard_sized_modular_computer_is/

I've been fed adverts for it now, leading to this product page at Mouser:

http://www.mouser.co.uk/new/Intel/intel-joule/

Pricing starts at around £150 per unit.

I see this as Intel gradually moving back towards what they know. Their
embedded boards don't really seem to have been widely picked up, at least in
the hacker/hobbyist mainstream (although maybe the Arduino 101 really has sold
well), and what started with a higher-end Arduino competitor employing a
Pentium-class CPU (Quark) became a 500MHz Atom-based product (second
generation Edison) that has now led to this 1.5GHz Atom-based board (Joule).

Paul

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Post by Paul Boddie
On Thursday 2. February 2017 00.00.01 Ralf-Peter Rohbeck via arm-netbook
https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/5rhuig/til_intels_creditcard_sized_modular_computer_is/
http://www.mouser.co.uk/new/Intel/intel-joule/

http://www.mouser.co.uk/pdfdocs/intel-joule-platform-mechanical-descriptor.pdf

looks completely different

l.

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Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
http://www.mouser.co.uk/pdfdocs/intel-joule-platform-mechanical-

descriptor.pdf

Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
looks completely different

Sorry, you're right! I saw something that resembled it, looked at the
specifications which do include things like wireless networking, and forgot
that they really are putting their Core line of CPUs into the Compute Card,
whereas this other thing uses Atom, which one might have thought they'd be
using for low power consumption. (I guess it was Atom and AMD's G-series that
you very briefly considered for possible EOMA68 applications.)

Still, showering the market with products isn't likely to diminish consumer
confusion, is it? Intel's own corporate attention span is as much a threat to
this product as almost anything else.

Paul

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Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
http://www.mouser.co.uk/pdfdocs/intel-joule-platform-mechanical-

descriptor.pdf

Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
looks completely different

Sorry, you're right! I saw something that resembled it, looked at the
specifications which do include things like wireless networking, and forgot
that they really are putting their Core line of CPUs into the Compute Card,
whereas this other thing uses Atom, which one might have thought they'd be
using for low power consumption. (I guess it was Atom and AMD's G-series that
you very briefly considered for possible EOMA68 applications.)
Still, showering the market with products isn't likely to diminish consumer
confusion, is it? Intel's own corporate attention span is as much a threat to
this product as almost anything else.

they're desperate... which is why they've been funding
(anti-competitive style) ODMs to use their processors, then
subsidising wholesalers to stock them... and then offering subsidies
to users to buy the resultant products.

at some point the FTC is going to catch on and give them a right
royal kicking...

l.

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It almost looks as if they don't have money to throw at everything any more. I'll bet they're tightening the strings in anticipation of AMD's comeback.
------ Original message------From: Paul BoddieDate: Tue, Feb 7, 2017 15:22To: Ralf-Peter Rohbeck;Linux on small ARM machines;Cc: Subject:Re: [Arm-netbook] TIL: Intel's credit-card sized modular computer is "inspired" by EOMA68
On Thursday 2. February 2017 00.00.01 Ralf-Peter Rohbeck via arm-netbook wrote:> Just saw this on Reddit:> https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/5rhuig/til_intels_creditcard_sized_modular_computer_is/I've been fed adverts for it now, leading to this product page at Mouser:http://www.mouser.co.uk/new/Intel/intel-joule/Pricing starts at around £150 per unit.I see this as Intel gradually moving back towards what they know. Their embedded boards don't really seem to have been widely picked up, at least in the hacker/hobbyist mainstream (although maybe the Arduino 101 really has sold well), and what started with a higher-end Arduino competitor employing a Pentium-class CPU (Quark) became a 500MHz Atom-based product (second generation Edison) that has now led to this 1.5GHz Atom-based board (Joule).Paul