[Arm-netbook] The sincerest form of flattery

[Mike Leimon]

I saw this link today and thought to myself that it looked awfully
familiar....

http://liliputing.com/2016/09/closer-look-kangaroo-notebook-modular-pc-system-video.html

While I am hoping their pilot program is successful (because modular and
upgradeable laptops is a great idea), this whole implementation appears to
be proprietary from top to bottom and without any concern for libre usage.

I suppose the other positive aspect to this (assuming the product takes off
for them) is that there will a larger consumer base out there that is
familiar with this sort of modular device paradigm. Perhaps at that point,
the concept of the EOMA68 standard won't be such a stretch of the
imagination for some people.

Anyhow, it was an interesting read.

[Christopher Havel]

There's also the first Motorola Atrix, which is kinda a similar idea but
with a smartphone base instead of a PC base, if you know what I mean. (The
second Atrix did not carry forward the dock concepts of the first one,
unfortunately.) It's *also* proprietary as ****, of course... but I
personally think it's pretty cool despite that. No offense or disrespect
meant, Luke, but I rather suspect that smartphone computing is going to be
a major part of the future -- libre, 'open', or proprietary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Atrix_4G

[Vincent Legoll]

Hello,

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:32 AM, Christopher Havel

I rather suspect that smartphone computing is going to be a major part
of the future -- libre, 'open', or proprietary.

I think this campaign agrees with you $BIGTIME:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/andromium/the-superbook-turn-your-smartphone-into-a-laptop-f

Love their 1080p display option...

I like the idea, but they didn't go far enough, I'd love to have an
additional HDMI (and DP, and VGA)
in for the display, added usb based (u)SD/TF card reader, more USB
ports, I.e. a full featured
everything-you-may-need-but-the-CPU. That would have a very long
lifespan for me...

[Muhammed Adel Afzal]

They got 3 million dollars ... wow.

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Hello,

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:32 AM, Christopher Havel

I rather suspect that smartphone computing is going to be a major part
of the future -- libre, 'open', or proprietary.

I think this campaign agrees with you $BIGTIME:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/andromium/the-superbook-turn-your-smartphone-into-a-laptop-f

Love their 1080p display option...

I like the idea, but they didn't go far enough, I'd love to have an
additional HDMI (and DP, and VGA)
in for the display, added usb based (u)SD/TF card reader, more USB
ports, I.e. a full featured
everything-you-may-need-but-the-CPU. That would have a very long
lifespan for me...
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Vincent Legoll

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Post by Muhammed Adel Afzal
They got 3 million dollars ... wow.

yeah. started by a GOOGLE engineer who has access to GOOGLE
engineering mailing lists and lots of friends at GOOGLE the project
hit its funding goal within a couple of hours.

it basically uses a DisplayLink adaptor. DisplayLink adaptors
actually contain a full CPU with a built-in GPU and hardware
accelerated video decode engines, and they require some DDR RAM to
hold the framebuffers and so on. it's a bit like a
hardware-accelerated version of doing X11 (or a less sophisticated
version of RDesktop) over USB instead of over a network.

it would be very interesting to emulate a DisplayLink adapter using a
USB-OTG port set up in "client" mode. the drivers are availalbe for
linux: they have been for some time. that way it would be possible to
run a full-blown OS.... oh that happened to turn into a "display".

l.

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[Muhammed Adel Afzal]

I remember reading somewhere that the eoma laptop battery will be different from usual laptop batteries. Magnesium instead of Lithium ... or something like that. And that it has different traits.

What kind of battery does the eoma laptop have? What's the right way to take care of it? Is it good or bad to deplete the battery to close to 0%, and then charge it to 100%?

Adel

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Post by Muhammed Adel Afzal
I remember reading somewhere that the eoma laptop battery will be different from usual laptop batteries. Magnesium instead of Lithium ... or something like that. And that it has different traits.

Lithium Ion, specific chemistry: NiCoMn.

Post by Muhammed Adel Afzal
What kind of battery does the eoma laptop have?

an e-bike battery. P/N EV GPNCM 62135160 10Ah - see
http://hands.com/~lkcl/eoma/laptop_15in

Post by Muhammed Adel Afzal
What's the right way to take care of it? Is it good or bad to deplete the battery to close to 0%, and then charge it to 100%?

i have no idea. we'll find out soon enough.

l.

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Post by Mike Leimon
I saw this link today and thought to myself that it looked awfully
familiar....

oooo faaascinating. huh. why hasn't that come up before? it's
been around for quite a while.

Post by Mike Leimon
http://liliputing.com/2016/09/closer-look-kangaroo-notebook-modular-pc-system-video.html
While I am hoping their pilot program is successful (because modular and
upgradeable laptops is a great idea), this whole implementation appears to
be proprietary from top to bottom and without any concern for libre usage.

yeah i noted that, too. nothing on the infocus web site suggests
that they intend to make a committment to open this up, at all.

Post by Mike Leimon
I suppose the other positive aspect to this (assuming the product takes off
for them) is that there will a larger consumer base out there that is
familiar with this sort of modular device paradigm. Perhaps at that point,
the concept of the EOMA68 standard won't be such a stretch of the
imagination for some people.

hooraaay!

Post by Mike Leimon
Anyhow, it was an interesting read.

yeah. good find, mike.

l.

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