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[Arm-netbook] Sorry to Luke (and others)
c***@sasktel.net
2016-09-02 05:43:09 UTC
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(From a computer-libErTarian)

Sorry, Luke, for the "shower" of private "e"mails today.

[To avoid any of you confusing me with someone else (I guess Al Billings)-
No, it was not me who sent 10 private messages, containing demands, in 20 minutes. Mine was like-
7, containing questions, in over 3 hours.]

To you on this mailing-list, and to Luke when he is not so (understandably) busy, please let me
"explain" my apology and how this happened.

I had many questions, regarding the products offered at
https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop
for backing.

And I am nearly sure that it HAD occurred to me, in the past, that if a question whose answer is
likely of interest to others, can be asked and answered PUBLICLY, then that can save time for the
person answering, by not having to answer the question twice.
And I HAD noticed that "Rhombus-Tech" had a mailing-list.
But I guess that it has been a long time since I was on ANY mailing-list, and that I did not
think clearly about what that meant.
(Mistake 1) I did not "put two and two together". It did not occur to me that perhaps my
questions should be sent to the list, rather than privately to Luke. I did not even think to ask him
whether I should send my questions, to the list. So I sent him a "shower" of questions in private
"e"mails, mostly this morning but a few were before then.
After responding to several of them, in reply to one of them he (in a gracious way) asked me to
"send this" to the list (send the question or send that "e"mail of mine, or perhaps, by "this", he
meant something more).
(Mistake 2) I supposed or guessed that he just meant the one or more questions in that particular
message, or just questions of that particular kind.
And since I had questions which were on DIFFERENT sub-topics, I continued and sent one or more
other private "e"mails to him.
Then he (well-manneredly, again) replied to another of mine, and his reply made it clear enough
for me, that I should send most or all of these questions, to the list.
(Mistake 3) BUT, I had already sent another "e"mail, BEFORE reading his 2nd request asking me to
post to the mailing-list.
So, understandably, he again replied by directing me to the list. Again, not rudely, though I
had been acting foolishly. And, understandably, he mentioned "critical tasks" for him to do.

After that, I felt quite ashamed. Perhaps a little like a baby. ~(:^o)---
At least I am learning by this event. [(A) to use mailing-lists when proper. and (B) generally,
to read received messages from the same person or on the same topic, before clicking <Send>.]
I guess that I was not thinking at my best, this morning. I should have stepped back and taken a
break.

Sorry, Luke. And thanks for the patience with me.

And sorry too, to you who benefit from work which Luke does when unnecessarily-private messages
do not distract him from "critical" tasks!

(And I suspect that I wasted some of Chris Waid's time, too, by "CCing" him with every one of
those messages of mine, other than one message where I guess I unintentionally put Chris into a
"To"-field!)

I will now send questions, to this list.

And if Luke at some time says that he is fine with it, I will copy (to this list), in some form,
at least some of my earlier questions and his answers.

Sincerely, a computer-libErTarian. (:^)

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Paul Boddie
2016-09-02 09:22:42 UTC
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Post by c***@sasktel.net
And I am nearly sure that it HAD occurred to me, in the past, that if a
question whose answer is likely of interest to others, can be asked and
answered PUBLICLY, then that can save time for the person answering, by
not having to answer the question twice.
I wouldn't worry too much about what's been done, particularly as it doesn't
seem to have been done maliciously. It's also clear that you understand the
etiquette here to the extent that the above quote is a good summary of the
policy of many mailing lists.

I tend to "reply to list" when my mail program lets me, and to "reply to all"
and then remove the personal addresses (leaving only the list address) when it
doesn't. When sending a new message, I tend to send it to the list only. Most
of the time, the people responding are on the list, especially if they are
involved with the project concerned.

Occasionally, I keep anyone responding in "Cc" if they've done that with me,
making the assumption that they like doing that. (Generally, I don't like
including people in "Cc" and will drop those separate addresses, making sure
that things go via the list.)

Some people/lists like short, specific messages on one topic or a couple of
topics. Others don't mind longer messages on a few different topics. I tend to
write longer messages on several topics if there are a few things I want to
mention that don't really merit separate messages. I think the consensus is to
keep the value of each message high, such that many single sentence messages
(for example) would be annoying and best avoided.

Welcome to the list! :-)

Paul

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Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2016-09-02 14:49:38 UTC
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Post by c***@sasktel.net
(From a computer-libErTarian)
Sorry, Luke, for the "shower" of private "e"mails today.
that's ok - i was fine answering up to a point but then realised that
the answers i was giving would benefit a lot of other people. and
that some i had already answered (dozens of times) so other people
would be able to answer them (saving me some time). so, please
re-send them.

l.

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