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[Arm-netbook] Open sourced A13 Kicad design mail server
joem
2015-09-21 07:01:08 UTC
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Open sourced A13 Kicad design mail server

https://www.own-mailbox.com/libre.html

Found them on kickstarter:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1547898916/own-mailbox-the-first-100-confidential-mailbox

Seems these guys have done some real hard work.
As well release their design on KiCAD, they also made a distro that runs
on A13 which has a modified mail server that accepts mail replies
and posts it at secure https links to standard email addresses which
don't offer security built in.

The KiCAD designs are missing some libs due to the way the paths
have been hard coded into the project files. I'm sure they will get
around to repairing it. Its a more powerful design than a raspberry pi,
but many times smaller.


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Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2015-09-21 09:42:26 UTC
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Post by joem
Open sourced A13 Kicad design mail server
https://www.own-mailbox.com/libre.html
yeh i think paul mentioned it last week. the A13's easy to do a
proper libre design because it's QFP. well done them managing DDR RAM
layouts with KiCAD though! dang that must have been heavy going...
but they did it.

hey you wanna know something ironic: the latest revision to eoma68
would allow the use of the allwinner A13 at a reasonable cost...
because no more ethernet phy on-board...

l.

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joem
2015-09-21 10:47:04 UTC
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Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
Post by joem
Open sourced A13 Kicad design mail server
https://www.own-mailbox.com/libre.html
yeh i think paul mentioned it last week. the A13's easy to do a
proper libre design because it's QFP. well done them managing DDR RAM
layouts with KiCAD though! dang that must have been heavy going...
but they did it.
Thanks to CERN, KiCAD now supports real time length tuning.
I tried it - put KiCAD into openGL mode and then
its absolute piece of cake!! (Youtube videos out there.)
Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
hey you wanna know something ironic: the latest revision to eoma68
would allow the use of the allwinner A13 at a reasonable cost...
because no more ethernet phy on-board...
Absolute shame the A13 doesn't have sata (which i need for server use).
A lot more projects could have happened without bga but with sata.
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Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2015-09-21 10:59:16 UTC
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Post by joem
Thanks to CERN, KiCAD now supports real time length tuning.
I tried it - put KiCAD into openGL mode and then
its absolute piece of cake!! (Youtube videos out there.)
ahh goooood.
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Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
hey you wanna know something ironic: the latest revision to eoma68
would allow the use of the allwinner A13 at a reasonable cost...
because no more ethernet phy on-board...
Absolute shame the A13 doesn't have sata (which i need for server use).
A lot more projects could have happened without bga but with sata.
well there is an allwinner product which has sata, it's called the
A10 and the A20 :) but yes, i knowwww.... QFP not BGA...

btw you know that what's inside the A13 is exactly the same as the
A10, right? just a different package, less pins brought out....

l.

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joem
2015-09-21 11:24:46 UTC
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Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
Post by joem
Absolute shame the A13 doesn't have sata (which i need for server use).
A lot more projects could have happened without bga but with sata.
well there is an allwinner product which has sata, it's called the
A10 and the A20 :) but yes, i knowwww.... QFP not BGA...
btw you know that what's inside the A13 is exactly the same as the
A10, right? just a different package, less pins brought out....
Yes.. hmm.. wonder if one of us can ask Allwinner to bring out a 200+
pin LQFP package (which is out now) with an A20 inside and sata pins
(and enough pins for 2GB RAM)? Can make proper servers with that.

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Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2015-09-21 12:50:37 UTC
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Yes.. hmm.. wonder if one of us can ask Allwinner to bring out a 200+
pin LQFP package (which is out now) with an A20 inside and sata pins
(and enough pins for 2GB RAM)? Can make proper servers with that.
that'd be cool. except... you know they restricted the data lanes to
only 16-bit on the A13, to be able to reduce the pin-count, right?
and there are only 14 address lines on the A20, so it might not
actually be feasible... don't know.

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David Janssens
2015-10-18 03:06:36 UTC
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Hello,
Does anyone have a copy of the kicad files?
I would like to try to make a board in kicad using A13 processor, it would
save me a lot of time to check the own-mailbox board first.

Thanks,


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Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2015-10-18 08:40:00 UTC
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Hello,
Does anyone have a copy of the kicad files?
https://www.own-mailbox.com/reloaded.html

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