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[Arm-netbook] aorus x3 plus v6
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2016-12-11 23:00:12 UTC
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well, i have a new development laptop, one that i'm actually happy
will last several years and be up to the challenge of being absolutely
hammered without even coming close to going beyond its design spec.

it's an 8 core 3.2ghz i7 which can be overclocked to 4ghz. RAM maxes
out at 32 GB of 2400mhz DDR4 RAM. it can take *two* PCIe NVMe SSDs,
which i've confirmed can run at 485 MEGABYTES per second write speed
and a whopping 2100 MB / sec read speed. who designs this stuff??
it's so bonkers i'm having a hard time getting my head round the
specs... which continue with a hybrid graphics setup: the Intel
skylake HD 5500 normally controls the LCD, but there's a headless
co-processor (using "optimus" or "primus" - apt-get install
bumblebeed) in the form of a GTX 1060 with SIX gigabytes of DDR5 RAM.

3200 x 1800 14in LCD just tops off the list of insane specs.

oh, and as long as you use the 4.7.8 linux kernel under debian, *all*
the hardware works. there's a few niggles but i can sort those out as
things progress and become more confident with it.

full report's at http://lkcl.net/reports/aorus_x3_plus_v6.html

and yes, i used angband.pl "nosystemd" packages. i considered it to
be better to be using debian with all dependence on systemd and
libsystemd removed than it would be to try to convert to devuan, where
they've clearly established themselves as a "Reaction Against" systemd
yet their charter says "we are inclusive of all init services". i
can't endorse or live with that kind of lack of integrity, despite
loving everything else that they're doing and achieving (warts and
all: thank you phil for sending privately that evaluation report you
did of their work).

the only real niggle about using this machine: god is it way too
recent hardware. 4.8.* kernels don't work fully, 3.16 kernels don't
work fully, i had to go with the 4.7.8 kernel and compile it up myself
from source. i also haven't had to actually use debian/sid in a long,
*long* time. have to keep an eye on that....

l.

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Andrew M.A. Cater
2016-12-11 23:27:20 UTC
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Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
well, i have a new development laptop, one that i'm actually happy
will last several years and be up to the challenge of being absolutely
hammered without even coming close to going beyond its design spec.
it's an 8 core 3.2ghz i7 which can be overclocked to 4ghz. RAM maxes
out at 32 GB of 2400mhz DDR4 RAM. it can take *two* PCIe NVMe SSDs,
which i've confirmed can run at 485 MEGABYTES per second write speed
and a whopping 2100 MB / sec read speed. who designs this stuff??
it's so bonkers i'm having a hard time getting my head round the
specs... which continue with a hybrid graphics setup: the Intel
skylake HD 5500 normally controls the LCD, but there's a headless
co-processor (using "optimus" or "primus" - apt-get install
bumblebeed) in the form of a GTX 1060 with SIX gigabytes of DDR5 RAM.
3200 x 1800 14in LCD just tops off the list of insane specs.
oh, and as long as you use the 4.7.8 linux kernel under debian, *all*
the hardware works. there's a few niggles but i can sort those out as
things progress and become more confident with it.
full report's at http://lkcl.net/reports/aorus_x3_plus_v6.html
the only real niggle about using this machine: god is it way too
recent hardware. 4.8.* kernels don't work fully, 3.16 kernels don't
work fully, i had to go with the 4.7.8 kernel and compile it up myself
from source. i also haven't had to actually use debian/sid in a long,
*long* time. have to keep an eye on that....
Debian testing should work, perhaps - kernel at 4.8.*

Debian Jessie and backports might work - 4.7.*

Sid is a step too far - but it's awesome that you have your laptop.

AndyC
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Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2016-12-12 04:04:19 UTC
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Post by Andrew M.A. Cater
Debian testing should work, perhaps - kernel at 4.8.*
it's outlined in the report why they don't: 4.8.* does not allow the
proprietary nvidia kernel to load. given that i need 3D rendering for
use with openscad (which runs under optirun successfully) i do
actually need the GTX 1060 up and running.

4.7 however worked perfectly.

3.16 was too old to recognise the *intel* skylake graphics.
Post by Andrew M.A. Cater
Debian Jessie and backports might work - 4.7.*
yes, 4.7.8 worked.
Post by Andrew M.A. Cater
Sid is a step too far - but it's awesome that you have your laptop.
yeah. just tested the camera (works great)... audio's 2W per channel
and one of the best i've heard on a laptop, ever. s2disk: works.
s2ram: works.

my only main serious concern is that when the ethernet port is
active, the PCIe bus on which the NVMe is plugged in goes haywire, and
throws up "severe (corrected)" errors. i've got a question out to
aorus about that and will update the report accordingly. it appears
to be benign... so far.


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Philip Hands
2016-12-12 01:58:27 UTC
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( ... thank you phil for sending privately that evaluation report you
did of their work).
*sigh* "evaluation report" makes it sound much grander than what I'd
call it, which would be something like "a few random thoughts that
popped into my head while glancing at some git history to see if there
was anything useful there"

I certainly did not do any sort of general scientific survey of what
they're up to, and did say that to you Luke -- I just didn't want to
waste people's time on this list with such obviously off-topic stuff.

In case anyone cares: I was looking at some bits of debian-installer
that have been forked by Devuan, to see what they've done and whether
there was anything that could be picked up in by Debian. I was prompted
to do so by a conversation on #neo900. I did _not_ spend a lot of time
on this. There is no secret evaluation report circulating in Debian
circles. This is not a conspiracy.

Cheers, Phil.
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