[Arm-netbook] Interested in pre-production unit for GNU Guix

[Eric Bavier]

Hello lkcl,

(Resending to list, hopefully it makes it this time)

We have a GNU Guix developer who is interested in working on bootloader
and general software support in GuixSD for the EOMA68-A20.

If there is still a pre-production unit available, please get in touch
so we can work out how to get them set up. I've agreed to finance the
hardware.

Thanks,
`~Eric Bavier
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[Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton]

Post by Eric Bavier
Hello lkcl,

hi eric

Post by Eric Bavier
(Resending to list, hopefully it makes it this time)
We have a GNU Guix developer who is interested in working on bootloader
and general software support in GuixSD for the EOMA68-A20.

great! let's take a look...
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-07/msg00515.html
ha! looks like someone's been working on porting GuixSD to ARM
already. it shouuuld be an extremely straightforward task if you're
prepared to stick with the known / tried-and-tested 3.4.104+
linux-sunxi kernel and the known tried-and-tested u-boot.

Post by Eric Bavier
If there is still a pre-production unit available,

yes there is.

Post by Eric Bavier
please get in touch
so we can work out how to get them set up. I've agreed to finance the
hardware.

superb. feel free to contact me off-list, with an address and
telephone number i can put on the EMS TW Postal Service docket.

l.

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[Vincent Legoll]

Hello

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton

stick with the known / tried-and-tested 3.4.104+ linux-sunxi kernel.

You must be kidding, right ?

[Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton]

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On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Vincent Legoll

Post by Vincent Legoll
Hello
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton

stick with the known / tried-and-tested 3.4.104+ linux-sunxi kernel.

You must be kidding, right ?

nope, not at all. it's still the only available version of the linux
kernel that has 100% proven, finished and *working* support for *all*
functions of the Allwinner A20 processor.

if you don't want or don't need HDMI, don't want video support, or a
shed-load of other functionality, feel free to use mainline linux
kernel source.

l.

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[Tzafrir Cohen]

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On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Vincent Legoll

Post by Vincent Legoll
Hello
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton

stick with the known / tried-and-tested 3.4.104+ linux-sunxi kernel.

You must be kidding, right ?

nope, not at all. it's still the only available version of the linux
kernel that has 100% proven, finished and *working* support for *all*
functions of the Allwinner A20 processor.
if you don't want or don't need HDMI, don't want video support, or a
shed-load of other functionality, feel free to use mainline linux
kernel source.

Looking at http://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort , I see that
HDMI is listed as "in linux mainline since 4.15". Yey!

LVDS is still listed as "WIP" and VGA and CVBS are still listed as red
no-s, and VE (Video Engine) is listed as WIP.
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On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Vincent Legoll

Post by Vincent Legoll
Hello
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton

stick with the known / tried-and-tested 3.4.104+ linux-sunxi kernel.

You must be kidding, right ?

nope, not at all. it's still the only available version of the linux
kernel that has 100% proven, finished and *working* support for *all*
functions of the Allwinner A20 processor.
if you don't want or don't need HDMI, don't want video support, or a
shed-load of other functionality, feel free to use mainline linux
kernel source.

Looking at http://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort , I see that
HDMI is listed as "in linux mainline since 4.15". Yey!

progreeeess.... slow but getting there.

Post by Tzafrir Cohen
LVDS is still listed as "WIP" and VGA and CVBS are still listed as red
no-s, and VE (Video Engine) is listed as WIP.

make sense now, vincent?

l.

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[Vincent Legoll]

Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton

Post by Tzafrir Cohen
Looking at http://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort , I see that
HDMI is listed as "in linux mainline since 4.15". Yey!

progreeeess.... slow but getting there.

Post by Tzafrir Cohen
LVDS is still listed as "WIP" and VGA and CVBS are still listed as red
no-s, and VE (Video Engine) is listed as WIP.

make sense now, vincent?

I knew that very well, that's my homepage ;-)
Waiting for HDMI / H3 also...

But your advocating people to continue to work on ultra-obsolete versions
(security-wise, etc) instead of pushing people to work on upstream is what
I found kind of strange.

But that's my personal opinion, and you're right to chose what's best for
the eoma project. We may not have the same priorities.

No harm intended

Tchuss

[Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton]

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Vincent Legoll

Post by Vincent Legoll
I knew that very well, that's my homepage ;-)
Waiting for HDMI / H3 also...
But your advocating people to continue to work on ultra-obsolete versions
(security-wise, etc) instead of pushing people to work on upstream is what
I found kind of strange.

well... they could focus on GuixSD... or they could focus on *not*
doing GuixSD (at all, because half the stuff won't work) and instead
do linux kernel development. if they'd said, "we're linux kernel
developers, we'd like to focus on improving mainling Allwinner A20
functionality so that OSes like GuixSD have 100% full functionality
for our users" i would have said, "great, here's the link to the
mainline linux-sunxi page"...

l.

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(+ Ludo and Danny)
Hi Luke and Eric,

Post by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
great! let's take a look...
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-07/msg00515.html
ha! looks like someone's been working on porting GuixSD to ARM
already. it shouuuld be an extremely straightforward task if you're

Yes Danny has been involved in the GuixSD bootloader serie too. I guess
he would be interested in a pre-production unit too.

i've only got around six or seven available of the 2.7.4 units, or
thereabouts. i need to keep two, one as a backup in case one gets
damaged (it happens).

one way round that would be to use a VPN (i run one), set up the unit
at one location and rsync packages over to it for testing in a chroot
environment on the card. it'll... need a little coordination :)

or, i could in theory set up one of the two i need to keep hold of
here in TW and leave it switched on 24x7?

I'm currently working on porting GuixSD on a BBB and have almost
succeded to boot it. So porting EOMA68-A20 should only consist in picking
the right kernel/u-boot as you stated.

yehyeh. the way i do different OSes is simply replace the root
filesystem partition on pre-existing micro-sd cards. i'll make sure
to include something (debian/testing armhf most likely - just don't do
"apt-get update" on it as it will pull in a shed-load of stuff that's
been done over the past... 2, 2.5 years)

l.

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